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	<title>Comments on: Cecil Peoples: &#8216;If You Don’t Like It, You Can Go To Hell&#8217; (Update: Shogun Responds)</title>
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		<title>By: REAL MUAY THAI</title>
		<link>http://www.mmaconvert.com/2009/10/29/cecil-peoples-if-you-don%e2%80%99t-like-it-you-can-go-to-hell/#comment-6506</link>
		<dc:creator>REAL MUAY THAI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 06:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NEITHER OF THE FIGHTERS KNOW AUTHENTIC MUAY THAI ..

YOU CANT EXTRACT A MOVE FROM A SYSTEM AND THEN SAY YOU ARE A THAI FIGHTER..

ALL THOSE FLAP JAWS GOING ON ABOUT MUAY THAI .. 

WHERE WAS THE NECK CONTROL??

WHAT ABOUT GRECO ROMAN MOVES DIDNT SEE A THING ..

NO REMATCH NEEDED BAN BOTH OF THESE LOOSERS FROM MMA.. IT WAS A WORKED FIGHT..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NEITHER OF THE FIGHTERS KNOW AUTHENTIC MUAY THAI ..</p>
<p>YOU CANT EXTRACT A MOVE FROM A SYSTEM AND THEN SAY YOU ARE A THAI FIGHTER..</p>
<p>ALL THOSE FLAP JAWS GOING ON ABOUT MUAY THAI .. </p>
<p>WHERE WAS THE NECK CONTROL??</p>
<p>WHAT ABOUT GRECO ROMAN MOVES DIDNT SEE A THING ..</p>
<p>NO REMATCH NEEDED BAN BOTH OF THESE LOOSERS FROM MMA.. IT WAS A WORKED FIGHT..</p>
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		<title>By: jasus</title>
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		<dc:creator>jasus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 22:08:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that&#039;s my two cents...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that&#8217;s my two cents&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: jasus</title>
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		<dc:creator>jasus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 22:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>forget to mention a key point:

Shogun himself, in the post-fight conference, said &quot;In my point of view I think I won the last three rounds of the fight, that&#039;s my opinion&quot;. (ufc.com)

Hence giving the first two round to Machida.

Watch it again and tell me how the third round goes to Shogun...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>forget to mention a key point:</p>
<p>Shogun himself, in the post-fight conference, said &#8220;In my point of view I think I won the last three rounds of the fight, that&#8217;s my opinion&#8221;. (ufc.com)</p>
<p>Hence giving the first two round to Machida.</p>
<p>Watch it again and tell me how the third round goes to Shogun&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: jasus</title>
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		<dc:creator>jasus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 21:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>has anyone that has commented on this fight watched it more than once ?

I&#039;ve watched the Machida / Shogun fight four times now.  I&#039;ve gone as far as going through portions in slow motion.  Here are a few things I picked out:

1. Machida was outstruck in the first round - but he landed 2 of the hardest hits in that round.....the only hard shots in the round.

2. Machida landed a punch on Shogun 9 times while being kicked.

3. During the big flurry in the third round - Shogun only landed 2 strikes to Machida&#039;s 8+ strikes - and the two uppercuts from Machida were everybit as hard-or-harder than the right hook that Shogun landed. Four or five of Shoguns strikes during that flurry missed the target all together.

All in all -- it was a VERY close fight -- the only two rounds that had a clear victor were the 2nd and 3rd and those went to Machida.  Shogun didn&#039;t clearly win any round except MAYBE the 4th.  I would give the 1st round to Machida even though he was landed less strikes because Machida&#039;s strikes were harder and more diverse (which matters as well). I would call he 5th round a draw.

Bottom line......the fight was Machida&#039;s after the first three rounds and Shogun needed to at least knock Machida down to win a 10-8 round and tip the scales in his favor.

Not to mention -- MANY share the opinion that you need to clearly beat a champ to take the belt. After all Machida knocked Evans OUT to become the champ. 

I think a better question to ask is:

Can you truly call Shogun a champ for winning by a split-decision ?

P.S. as it&#039;s been said again and again and again......don&#039;t leave it in the hands of the judges.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>has anyone that has commented on this fight watched it more than once ?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve watched the Machida / Shogun fight four times now.  I&#8217;ve gone as far as going through portions in slow motion.  Here are a few things I picked out:</p>
<p>1. Machida was outstruck in the first round &#8211; but he landed 2 of the hardest hits in that round&#8230;..the only hard shots in the round.</p>
<p>2. Machida landed a punch on Shogun 9 times while being kicked.</p>
<p>3. During the big flurry in the third round &#8211; Shogun only landed 2 strikes to Machida&#8217;s 8+ strikes &#8211; and the two uppercuts from Machida were everybit as hard-or-harder than the right hook that Shogun landed. Four or five of Shoguns strikes during that flurry missed the target all together.</p>
<p>All in all &#8212; it was a VERY close fight &#8212; the only two rounds that had a clear victor were the 2nd and 3rd and those went to Machida.  Shogun didn&#8217;t clearly win any round except MAYBE the 4th.  I would give the 1st round to Machida even though he was landed less strikes because Machida&#8217;s strikes were harder and more diverse (which matters as well). I would call he 5th round a draw.</p>
<p>Bottom line&#8230;&#8230;the fight was Machida&#8217;s after the first three rounds and Shogun needed to at least knock Machida down to win a 10-8 round and tip the scales in his favor.</p>
<p>Not to mention &#8212; MANY share the opinion that you need to clearly beat a champ to take the belt. After all Machida knocked Evans OUT to become the champ. </p>
<p>I think a better question to ask is:</p>
<p>Can you truly call Shogun a champ for winning by a split-decision ?</p>
<p>P.S. as it&#8217;s been said again and again and again&#8230;&#8230;don&#8217;t leave it in the hands of the judges.</p>
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		<title>By: Brazilian Pitbull</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brazilian Pitbull</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 02:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>is Peoples The only judge out there?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>is Peoples The only judge out there?</p>
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		<title>By: Jaewill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jaewill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 02:40:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obviously your not a boxing fan because if you ever watched any big fight Cecil Peoples is usually a judge . So how about you start Doin&#039; Dat Research before you say someone is wrong on a comment they have .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obviously your not a boxing fan because if you ever watched any big fight Cecil Peoples is usually a judge . So how about you start Doin&#8217; Dat Research before you say someone is wrong on a comment they have .</p>
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		<title>By: Berezansky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Berezansky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 21:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This statement really makes him look stupid. I hope he gets shit canned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This statement really makes him look stupid. I hope he gets shit canned.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Barry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:47:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know how to prove he didn&#039;t. Look at Machida after the fight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know how to prove he didn&#8217;t. Look at Machida after the fight.</p>
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		<title>By: MMA is Pride</title>
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		<dc:creator>MMA is Pride</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To anticipate comments, nobody gives a shit about my point of view but I guarantee it&#039;s representative of the thoughts of many MMA fans around.

I also know that Ref and judges don&#039;t do the same jobs but I&#039;m sure that Big John would do a great judge...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To anticipate comments, nobody gives a shit about my point of view but I guarantee it&#8217;s representative of the thoughts of many MMA fans around.</p>
<p>I also know that Ref and judges don&#8217;t do the same jobs but I&#8217;m sure that Big John would do a great judge&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: MMA is Pride</title>
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		<dc:creator>MMA is Pride</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:34:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the info &quot;Doin dat Research&quot;.

In fact, I don&#039;t really care where he&#039;s from. I&#039;m just astonished by that level of blindness - stupidity - corruption, whatever you may call it.

I would really like to have the feelings of Big John about this match. If I&#039;m correct, he&#039;s the best ref concerning MMA and was rarely?-never? involved in doubtful judgments (unless guys like Lavigne or Mazzagatti). If Big John judges that Machida won the fight and supports Cecil Peoples judgment, I&#039;m ready to apologize to what I said about C. Peoples. Otherwise, this fat prick can just go to hell as well...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the info &#8220;Doin dat Research&#8221;.</p>
<p>In fact, I don&#8217;t really care where he&#8217;s from. I&#8217;m just astonished by that level of blindness &#8211; stupidity &#8211; corruption, whatever you may call it.</p>
<p>I would really like to have the feelings of Big John about this match. If I&#8217;m correct, he&#8217;s the best ref concerning MMA and was rarely?-never? involved in doubtful judgments (unless guys like Lavigne or Mazzagatti). If Big John judges that Machida won the fight and supports Cecil Peoples judgment, I&#8217;m ready to apologize to what I said about C. Peoples. Otherwise, this fat prick can just go to hell as well&#8230;</p>
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