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BJ Penn Hopes James Toney Does Well Against Randy Couture

“I really would like to see James Toney do good out there. You know what? If Randy goes in there and runs over James Toney in five seconds, I don’t think that does anything. I look for ways to try to build the sport, ways to put more fans in the seats and more money in our pockets. I want to see James Toney go in there and do good… I remember talking to him a while back and he said, ‘BJ, I want to get involved with this stuff.’ And I never… I thought he was just running his mouth at first. I thought we were just, you know, having a conversation. And here he is, here he is. He’s stepping in and fighting a five-time UFC champ on his first fight. The guy’s got some b—-, man. And I give it to him. And I just, I wish the best for him… You know, with Randy it’s going to be tough because he’s got the Greco. He wrestled in college, so he’s got the shot. And if they exchange, they’re going to get caught in a some kind of clinch. And I think it’s going to be tough for him. I just want to see him go out and do good, you know?”

—BJ Penn telling MMA Fighting he would like to see James Toney perform well against Randy Couture this Saturday at UFC 118

You know, I think I have to agree with BJ. Two months ago, I couldn’t have cared less about James Toney coming to the UFC, but now, I’m actually looking forward to it. Slowly but surely, Toney has made me interested, and I’m pretty certain I’m not the only one. Now don’t get me wrong, I won’t be rooting for James Toney on Saturday night, I’m just really impressed with all the attention and interest he has drummed up for the card. As offensive as Toney can be, he brings a unique, polarizing personality that MMA could certainly use more of. Regardless of what happens Saturday night, I’d like to see him come back for another fight, preferably against someone who will really make it interesting — a fellow striker.

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  • sandman

    All disciplines are welcome to the UFC, a professional organization, but Toney doesn’t know how to embrace an invitation to a sport that doesn’t hype fights with bullshit antics. That’s a big problem with boxers in general; they dish out so much needless trash talk that it takes away from the actual fight. If Toney would just shut up and get in the cage and test his skills, fine, but what a jackass he is…

  • Matt Silliman

    Actually, a lot of UFC fighters hype fights with bullshit antics. Dan Hardy, Chael Sonnen, Rampage vs. Rashad, Chuck vs. Tito, there are a lot more, but those are a couple.

    I for one, have no problem with talking shit and hyping a fight. It makes me enjoy the victory all the more and it makes the loss all the more bitter. It makes me more invested emotionally because I really don’t want randy to lose. It’s the same feeling I get when I bet on fights.

    • Lonnie Batt

      I think that you couldn’t have made a better comment sandman JUST FIGHT, this is not the WBC man I don;t care how good you think you are,,,,you better have some respect for the sport you are intruding on cause we all know what can happen to you in this sport if you are a one deminsional fighter no matter where you came from…..

  • Pat

    I always liked Randy and I hope he kicks Toneys ass.
    But I also want Toney to get in some good strikes and make Randy work for the win.

  • Andy Jacksonian

    This “fight” is BS. James Toney is as much “a has been” in boxing at this stage and his age (more shop worn than Randy even) and Randy Couture is also over the hill on his downslide, just not as far down the slippery slope as James Toney. If both of theee were 10 to 15 years younger … this actually might have been a good competitive fight if Toney had taken time to get in some good phropholaxic anti- ground training … a la Chuck Liddell or Forest Griffin. As it is Toney will probably be unprepared as such except to pickup a nice paycheck.

    Its clear that this “event” exists just to soak up suckers’ moneys.

  • Ron

    can’t wait to see toney knock out couture, and yes it is going to happen, mark my words


      Hi. I am another Ron that thinks that James Toney has a very good chance to knock out Randy Couture. With 4 once gloves, James Toney has much better hand speed than Couture has faced. If Toney catches Couture with an uppercut while Couture comes in to take him to the ground, as everyone knows that this is Coutures plan, it can be lights out for Randy. I just think that too many are already putting a W in Coutures record. Don’t underestimate Toneys speed/power. He may well surprize you.

      • gradiz92

        @ RON GAINES….Well Ron know that it’s over we can clearly see that Toney is out of shape, can do nothing in MMA and is just a jack ass loud mouth. 90% of true MMA fans knew this was going to be the result. LMAO at you and all you Toney fans…hahaha. Well at least he got a pay check and he will not be on welfare anytime soon assuming he doesn’t go spend it all on another diamond watch “brotha watch” like he claimed on an old interview.

    • ToneyIsMyBitch

      No It wont…

      • Ron

        Couture got caught by punches by both brock and vera (I never saw his nogueira or coleman fight so I don’t know about those). Neither Vera or Lesnar are particularly good strikers, and Toney is pretty much all striking.

      • RON

        So, ToneyisMyBitch, I guess you think Toney has no chance?? Just for funsy, what is your prediction for Couture’s win. ( Go ahead and pick a round, and method for Coutures victory- or do you think it won’t last one round??) Just curious.

    • gradiz92

      @ Ron hahaha….in your face. You don’t know boxing and much less MMA.

      • RON

        @gradiz92 I saw Muhammad Ali fight at MSG probably before you were born and have studied martial arts for over 34 yrs. I never said that Toney was going to win this fight. My point was that if Couture would stand with Toney, even though Toney is well past his prime, he could easily knock out Randy. But Couture went right to the ground like everyone knew he would. He knew better than to stand with Toney.

        • gradiz92

          @RON Well Mr. Ron with all due respect (grandpa) your comment and analysis is ridiculous. I don’t care if you’ve been watching boxing or any other combat art since Jesus was a carpenter… the bottom line is that your prediction was moronic , brainless, and just plain stupid…it shows that after all these years as a fan of boxing you can’t make a correct prediction. Why in God’s green earth would Randy try to stand and exchange punches with Toney? Are you crazy? Don’t forget that Toney and all his silly followers including yourself are the ones who claimed that he could fight anyone in MMA.

          • RON

            @gradiz92- I only said that Toney has a punchers chance. Unlike you, I made my comments BEFORE the fight. Pretty easy to wait until the fight is over to come back & tell everyone how you knew what was going to happen.

  • Kaleo

    You know it is amazing how the press will turn everything someone says around. BJ Penn wants Tony to do good in his outing against Couture for the sport of MMA. To keep the fight interesting. A quick knock out will not help the viewers who pay to watch the fight. Not that he was wishing that Tony would beat Couture. But how does the headline read. PENN WANTS TONY TO BEAT COUTURE! Sounds like the writer was trying to make some friction with Penn and Couture. Maybe to sell more paper. Go Figure.

  • RON

    I think alot of MMA fans have not seen some of the best boxers in their prime. Although James Toney is not near as good as he once was, he still has very fast hand speed. I really think that if Couture doesn’t get Toney off his feet, he can do some damage quickly, very quickly.Everyone is saying, Couture will put Toney on the ground,GNP and the fight is over.I believe Toney has a decent chance to upset Couture.

  • Randy

    I wouldn’t want someone like James Toney to walk in there and clean house on Randy Couture. He talks too much crap and disrespects the other fighters. He needs to be humbled! And for Penn to want a MMA fighter to lose to a boxer doesn’t say all that much about him! Of course, Penn needs to be humbled again and again as well! Go Edgar!

    • Randy

      Well enough said! Awesome fights, great card! Most all the fights went like I thought they would. Looks like Toney might want to start adding some humility in his training!

  • RON

    I don’t necessarily want Toney to win the fight against Couture, but if he gives a respectable fight imagine the potential for more boxers to enter into MMA. I think it can only add a new level of excitement. No harm in that.

    • RON G.

      My comment above

  • Ron

    the fight was clearly rigged to put couture back in the semi title contender picture. Why else was this the co-mainevent?

    • gradiz92

      @Ron Rigged? you’re silly.

    • Randy

      Yea it was rigged! NOT!!! How stupid to think that was rigged in any way. Did you watch the fights? Toney isn’t going to throw a fight especially to a MMA fighter! You need to wake up and if you did watch the fights, re-watch! JMO

      • Randy

        Oh and here is one of your “30 plus years experience” calls made before the fight! Quote from “RON”-
        08/25/10 @ 5:39 pm
        can’t wait to see toney knock out couture, and yes it is going to happen, mark my words.

        Wow, what other predictions do you have Ron?

        • RON G.

          @Randy, I guess I should use an avatar. Believe it or not, there are two Rons making comments. My comments only suggested that Toney had a punchers CHANCE to win if the fight stayed on their feet. I didn’t say “Toney knocks out Couture,mark my words” I did think that Toney could at least keep the fight standing for at least 2 minutes,his only chance to win. I was wrong.

  • Ron

    they finally found someone that couture can beat

    • Randy

      Wow, Ron maybe you should take to golf! Because your MMA experience is lacking dearly, lol! Randy Couture has more on his resume than most any of the other fighters. Hence his nick name “Captian America”! Below you can read for yourself:

      Win Randy Couture UFC 118: Edgar vs. Penn 2Aug 28, 2010 8 1 2 1 R1 Submission
      James Toney 0 0 0 0

      Win Randy Couture UFC 109: RelentlessFeb 6, 2010 44 1 1 2 R2 Submission
      Mark Coleman 10 0 0 0
      Couture has won and lost to most of the great MMA fighter in the UFC. He has proved himself!

      Win Randy Couture UFC 105: Couture vs. VeraNov 14, 2009 39 1 0 0 R3 Decision – Unanimous
      Brandon Vera 27 1 0 1

      Loss Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira UFC 102: Couture vs. NogueiraAug 29, 2009 27 0 3 4 R3 Decision – Unanimous
      Randy Couture 42 0 0 0

      Loss Brock Lesnar UFC 91: Couture vs. LesnarNov 15, 2008 31 2 0 2 R2 KO/TKO
      Randy Couture 11 1 0 0

      Win Randy Couture UFC 74: RespectAug 25, 2007 63 3 0 1 R3 KO/TKO
      Gabriel Gonzaga 11 0 1 0

      Win Randy Couture UFC 68: The UprisingMar 3, 2007 73 7 0 7 R5 Decision – Unanimous
      Tim Sylvia 25 0 0 0

      Loss Chuck Liddell UFC 57: Liddell vs. Couture 3Feb 4, 2006 19 0 0 0 R2 KO/TKO
      Randy Couture 7 1 0 0

      Win Randy Couture UFC 54: Boiling PointAug 20, 2005 27 4 3 0 R3 Submission
      Mike van Arsdale 8 1 0 0

      Loss Chuck Liddell UFC 52: Couture vs Liddell 2Apr 16, 2005 13 0 0 0 R1 KO/TKO
      Randy Couture 9 0 0 0

      Win Randy Couture UFC 49: Unfinished BusinessAug 21, 2004 50 2 0 1 R3 TKO – Doctor’s Stoppage
      Vitor Belfort 3 0 2 0

      Loss Vitor Belfort UFC 46: SupernaturalJan 31, 2004 1 0 0 0 R1 TKO – Doctor’s Stoppage
      Randy Couture 1 0 0 0

      Win Randy Couture UFC 44: UndisputedSep 26, 2003 88 8 0 9 R5 Decision – Unanimous
      Tito Ortiz 16 2 0 0

      Win Randy Couture UFC 43: MeltdownJun 6, 2003 46 4 1 3 R3 KO/TKO
      Chuck Liddell 22 0 0 0

      Loss Ricco Rodriguez UFC 39: The Warriors ReturnSep 27, 2002 39 4 1 3 R5 Submission
      Randy Couture 39 5 0 3

      Loss Josh Barnett UFC 36: Worlds CollideMar 22, 2002 44 0 1 1 R2 KO/TKO
      Randy Couture 18 1 0 3

      Win Randy Couture UFC 34: High VoltageNov 2, 2001 41 3 0 1 R3 KO/TKO
      Pedro Rizzo 13 1 0 0

      Win Randy Couture UFC 31: Locked and LoadedMay 4, 2001 69 3 0 2 R5 Decision – Unanimous
      Pedro Rizzo 42 0 0 0

      Win Randy Couture UFC 28: High StakesNov 17, 2000 28 1 1 1 R3 KO/TKO
      Kevin Randleman 15 2 1 0

      Win Randy Couture UFC – Ultimate JapanDec 21, 1997 19 3 1 7 R3 Decision – Majority
      Maurice Smith 9 0 0 0

      Win Randy Couture UFC 15: Collision CourseOct 17, 1997 34 1 1 2 R1 KO/TKO
      Vitor Belfort 6 0 0 0

      Win Randy Couture UFC 13: The Ultimate ForceMay 30, 1997 16 1 0 4 R1 KO/TKO
      Steven Graham 0 0 0 0

      Win Randy Couture UFC 13: The Ultimate ForceMay 30, 1997 1 1 1 2 R1 Submission

      • RON G.

        Hi Randy. I like Randy Couture.I wanted him to win this Toney/Couture match. James Toney has 72 wins/with 44 KO- 6 losses. My point was that if Toney gets 1 clean shot , he can drop anyone in MMA. I just thought the dumb ass (Toney) could not get taken down in 20 seconds. I was wrong. OK

  • Ron

    couture hasn’t beaten a top 10 hw or lhw in years, that’s what I meant when I said the ufc found someone he can beat, his win over toney is way more important than vera or coleman for his career, couture has no chance against any of the top 10

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