Alistair Overeem stopped by ESPN headquarters in Bristol, Conn. to join Jon Anik on ESPN MMA Live for an exclusive interview. Overeem tells Anik towards the end of the interview that if he was in the UFC, which he doesn’t have any current plans to be due to their exclusive contracts, he would like to fight Cain Velasquez, whom he considers to be the number one heavyweight in MMA. And with a smirk, he also tells Anik that he would love to fight Brock Lesnar.

Also of note, Overeem predicts that Shogun Rua will beat Jon Jones next month at UFC 128. He thinks Shogun is too “clever” and has too much experience for Jones to upend the champion.